• Re: FidoNet; Ken Kaplan - and the future

    From paulie420@21:2/150 to Atreyu on Thu Dec 5 18:38:24 2024
    All of that stopped when I carefully reviewed my ISP's AUP regarding
    what is a grey area of offensive content or things that could be
    construed as illegal or problematic from their perspective. Goodies I
    have here like the complete archive of alt.suicide.holiday or the many alt.flame.[insert ethnicity] groups for example. You *cannot* host these things on the web on a Canadian ISP.

    If you need any help.... :P



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  • From Atreyu@21:1/176 to Paulie420 on Thu Dec 5 23:33:05 2024
    On 05 Dec 24 18:38:24, Paulie420 said the following to Atreyu:

    All of that stopped when I carefully reviewed my ISP's AUP regarding what is a grey area of offensive content or things that could be construed as illegal or problematic from their perspective. Goodies I have here like the complete archive of alt.suicide.holiday or the many alt.flame.[insert ethnicity] groups for example. You *cannot* host thes things on the web on a Canadian ISP.

    If you need any help.... :P

    Appreciate the offer but I've got bigger fish to fry at the moment... looking at moving outta here to suburbia.

    But I've yet to see a hosting company without some sort of restrictive AUP. As soon as you see lingo relating to offensive or "hate speech" its no dice. Doesn't matter if you're a digital hoarder and you want to preserve a snapshot of history, that wild-west of the 90's Usenet and Echomail and all that.

    Not to get off on a rant but I'm worried that one day, ISP's will restrict Telnet entirely. Eventually no ISP will give any understanding to some weirdo running a "bulletin board system" on port 23. It will be lumped into that security-risk catagory along with Cisco routers, IP cameras, IOT etc.

    Atreyu

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  • From Dreamweaver@21:1/144 to Digital Man on Thu Dec 5 14:20:01 2024
    Ha! Rob peels off the mask, reveals himself to be Jas Hud. ;)


    AHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Atreyu on Sat Dec 7 19:53:56 2024
    Appreciate the offer but I've got bigger fish to fry at the moment... looking at moving outta here to suburbia.

    Nice

    But I've yet to see a hosting company without some sort of restrictive AUP. As soon as you see lingo relating to offensive or "hate speech" its no dice.

    Not to get off on a rant but I'm worried that one day, ISP's will
    restrict Telnet entirely. Eventually no ISP will give any understanding to some weirdo running a "bulletin board system" on port 23. It will be lumped into that security-risk catagory along with Cisco routers, IP cameras, IOT etc.

    I hear ya - but hopefully there will ALWAYS be options to run whatever we want. While the big guys might continue to move that way, I'm sure we'll be able to find, use or build solutions that keep US running. :P



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to paulie420 on Sun Dec 8 15:46:45 2024
    paulie420 wrote to Atreyu <=-

    Not to get off on a rant but I'm worried that one day, ISP's will
    restrict Telnet entirely. Eventually no ISP will give any understanding to some weirdo running a "bulletin board system" on port 23. It will be lumped into that security-risk catagory along with Cisco routers, IP cameras, IOT etc.

    I hear ya - but hopefully there will ALWAYS be options to run whatever
    we want. While the big guys might continue to move that way, I'm sure we'll be able to find, use or build solutions that keep US running. :P

    I miss the days when "being on the internet" meant participating in a
    grand experiment, instead of consuming content. The fact that Comcast
    has succeeded for years selling wildly assymetrical cable service
    confirms that the latter is working for most people.



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  • From Mickey@21:1/159 to Atreyu on Mon Dec 9 21:07:57 2024
    Not to get off on a rant but I'm worried that one day, ISP's will restrict Telnet entirely. Eventually no ISP will give any understanding to some weirdo running a "bulletin board system" on port 23. It will be lumped into that security-risk catagory along with Cisco routers, IP cameras, IOT etc.

    I agree, especially in Canada. I believe it to be inevitable.

    Free Speech for Everyone?

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  • From Atreyu@21:1/176 to Mickey on Mon Dec 9 22:15:51 2024
    On 09 Dec 24 21:07:57, Mickey said the following to Atreyu:

    Not to get off on a rant but I'm worried that one day, ISP's will restrict Telnet entirely. Eventually no ISP will give any understanding to some weird running a "bulletin board system" on port 23. It will be lumped into that security-risk catagory along with Cisco routers, IP cameras, IOT etc.

    I agree, especially in Canada. I believe it to be inevitable.

    Free Speech for Everyone?

    Only if you carry the party-line. Thats what scary my friend.

    Atreyu

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Mickey on Wed Dec 11 20:39:49 2024
    BY: Mickey (21:1/159)

    |11M|09> |10Not to get off on a rant but I'm worried that one day, ISP's will|07
    |11M|09> |10restrict|07
    |11M|09> |10Telnet entirely. Eventually no ISP will give any understanding to some|07
    |11M|09> |10weirdo|07
    |11M|09> |10running a "bulletin board system" on port 23. It will be lumped into|07
    |11M|09> |10that|07
    I run on a port that is not 23 because I get tired of script kiddles spamming my bbs.


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  • From paul@21:3/195 to Utopian Galt on Thu Dec 12 11:06:18 2024
    I run on a port that is not 23 because I get tired of script kiddles spamming my bbs.

    Me as well. I think its best to use an non standard port, anyway. Just to keep the children at bay :)

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  • From Mickey@21:1/159 to paul on Thu Dec 12 18:33:35 2024
    On 12 Dec 2024, paul exclaimed the following...

    I run on a port that is not 23 because I get tired of script kiddles spamming my bbs.

    Me as well. I think its best to use an non standard port, anyway. Just
    to keep the children at bay :)

    It doesn't matter. The script kiddies, as you call them, are just other servers pinging for open ports. They'll find you no matter which port you move it to.

    Mick Manning
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    https://centralontarioremote.net

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  • From paul@21:3/195 to Mickey on Thu Dec 12 20:24:55 2024
    It doesn't matter. The script kiddies, as you call them, are just other servers pinging for open ports. They'll find you no matter which port
    you move it to.


    Sadly,that's a very true point.

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Paul on Thu Dec 12 19:57:36 2024
    BY: paul (21:3/195)

    |11p|09> |10Me as well. I think its best to use an non standard port, anyway. Just|07
    |11p|09> |10to keep the children at bay :)|07
    Does a fidonet mailer mode thingie reduce the spamming?


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  • From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to APAM on Fri Dec 13 10:52:00 2024
    Except they're not looking for BBSes, most of those port scanners are
    looking for vulnerable services. It takes time to scan 65355 ports, so
    it's much quicker to only scan the ones you know the vulnerable services
    you are looking for are running on.

    Yes, and most of the scripts are looking for default user names that are
    common with IoT devices... "enable," "admin," etc. Apparently these
    default users are also passwordless if the user has not reconfigured them.


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  • From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to APAM on Sat Dec 14 09:22:00 2024
    I think it more becomes a problem when you're running on something like a commodore 64 or something. I don't know, I don't have a problem either.

    Or running more than one BBS.


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  • From Alonzo@21:1/130 to Mickey on Sun Dec 15 20:07:34 2024

    It doesn't matter. The script kiddies, as you call them, are just other servers pinging for open ports. They'll find you no matter which port
    you move it to.

    Amen to that. They are just pinging for open ports, so it doesn't
    really matter which port you use.

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